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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby coreys » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:03 pm

Thanks for the responses. I was hoping that the gauge hoods were interchangable, but after a quick look it would appear that they arent.
I am looking forward to speaking to the guy this Friday so I can get rough estimates on prices and minimum quantities for the items people have mentioned.
I may see if it would be more affordable to do several different items in lesser amounts and have them shipped together.
On the weekend he was encouraging me to have stuff sorted and sent off this week, so I may appear a tad pushy.

Here are some rough prices that a company in the US is charging for parts. I would imagine I would be similar, if not cheaper.

Would anybody be interested in an OEM bonnet? If multiple items work out to be somewhat efficient maybe a bonnet/front guard deal can be sorted. Possibly even headlight covers and surrounds?
I am just after as many ideas as I can get before I run it all past my mate again this Friday.

Here are just a couple different spoilers. I am not sure if people would prefer the bolt/stick-on option, or the full boot. If people like one of the bolt-ons, but would like a full boot, I am sure that something could be fabricated.
which is more appealing? Any other suggestions?
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby Muzdaman » Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:47 pm

coreys wrote:Thanks for the responses. I was hoping that the gauge hoods were interchangable, but after a quick look it would appear that they arent.


2 Different gauge hoods for NA, 89-93 is different to the 94-97 hood.
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby joshdobrik » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:07 pm

That first bolt on boot lip just doesnt look right, doesnt suit the miata at all

The others on the other hand look fantastic, i would be very happy for a replacment boot for either style
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby coreys » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:57 pm

Hey Josh, I just had a flick through your blog. You have some very nice pics in there, especially the b/w which I find hard to get away with. Keep up the great work. I however am still learning how to use a camera XD.

I know there is a member in NSW i think with a version 1.5, I think, on his white NA, but i can not remember who..
Would there be anybody who has a ducktail boot of some sort that may be interested in swapping for cash, a new cf product, or the good feeling of helping out? PM me if so.
Or at the very least add some photos and details?
The one thing I dont like about the Autokonexion boots is they dont come with the brake light cut out, but they have the indentation.


EDIT
In my last post I was supposed to have a link to a site that sells CF parts from the US, but i forgot to put the link in.
http://www.aerokits.net/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=75_194
I can only hope to get better pricing, but that would come down to how much stuff gets ordered, as the highest cost is getting the stuff here, which could be a fixed rate shipping container.
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby Bizi » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:14 pm

Sorry if I've missed this - I love the idea of a lightweight CF bootlid, like the Autokonexion Type 1.5, but your mate will need to copy it so needs an original.

I agree with other people suggesting simple, functional, versatile CF racing-style door trims.

Possibly a design to suit both NA and NB? My own NA ones, made by a forum member, are functional and could be easily replicated, though they use the NA pads at the tops of the doors.

If it was the right price and not too hard to make, I think you could make and sell a number of NA tombstones, like the Trap one -alex has in her NA. :)

The custom NA tombstones are often seen on Yahoo Japan auctions: just check Ruprecht's imported parts on astinagt.com or via importmonster.com translation of the auctions.

Can we get confirmation if all of the Aussie 89-97 NA tombstones are the same shape and interchangeable?

It's not worth making poor quality items, so emphasise that - since the real deal can be bought from the Japanese auction sites or via MX5 specialists. Do it right or not at all.
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby coreys » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:50 pm

I do like that tombstone, but it is only for people who have stripped their centre console? are heaps of people doing that now?

It would not be an issue to make different door trims for NA/NB, but it will just cost slightly more for the initial mould to be made.
Pretty much anything can be done, as long as I have enough people wanting it and I can get the part to send off.

I have been promised excellent quality, as my mate will be returning to china to work from there and he will be the quality control. For now he is doing CF parts for FDs as that is what he drives.
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby Bizi » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:56 pm

I think that anyone considering the carpet console really does need to get this kind of custom tombstone, since a carpet console looks wrong without the short tombstone.

Are there enough people interested? I bet that there is, since it's possible to get a pattern from various forums and DIY a carpet console of your own.
A real CF tombstone would give a sporty look and if it's a short style like the Trap one, it would be tempting for LOTS of people here.

Just check to see if this item is already made in CF, since it might not be as easy as just copying the original, if it involves lots of tabs, holes, stress points etc.

I have doubts about the longevity of a CF instrument hood, since it would get direct sunlight all of the time. Plus compatibility issues, but see how you go.

One more thing: CF matched handbrake handle and gear knob? I recall someone selling a CF knob recently. I don't know how hard or practical it is to make these though. Keep us updated!
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby Kikuchi » Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:31 pm

with cf gear knobs will just be gear knobs wrapped in cf, and then theres all the different styles people prefer, probably something to stay away from.
handbrake handles however would be great.
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possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby criss » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:26 am

Bonnet and fender will suit my need I guess, but how much you think it would cost Coreye???
If u can get a killer competitive piece tag, then I guess you have to worry about the lack of order at all, hahaha
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby deviant » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:58 am

coreys wrote:
EDIT
In my last post I was supposed to have a link to a site that sells CF parts from the US, but i forgot to put the link in.
http://www.aerokits.net/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=75_194
I can only hope to get better pricing, but that would come down to how much stuff gets ordered, as the highest cost is getting the stuff here, which could be a fixed rate shipping container.


Lots of very hit and miss reviews of Chaser over on miata.net

With regards to CF handbrakes and gear knobs. Look awesome but the clear coat can be scratched quite easily.

Also look at door mirrors and rear view mirror.

'Shorty' consoles http://rev9autosport.com/nb/interior/je ... ype-1.html

CF pedals

Fuel flap

Something different that I have not seen yet. Air diversion plate / radiator cooling panel done in CF...Like this: http://rev9autosport.com/nb/engine/beat ... panel.html

Or the trim that runs around the inside of the windscreen?
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby coreys » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:45 am

I did consider a matching handbrake and gearknob, but I like heaps of weight in my knob (dont we all?), so best bet would be to wrap an existing weighted knob. And as also mentioned, people have many different tastes. I for one have the joyfast medium knob, which replaced my black voodoo and i would never go back.

Do people really like the short tombstone like the trap over a shortened console that just goes around the gear stick with provision for the window switches?
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I am just not overly keen on it myself, as i like the storage. So I will need somebody to tell me what is wanted there.


I would love to be able to make assumptions on prices, but they will be just that for now, assumptions. If I guess prices I know I will be wrong and will crush peoples hopes.
That is why I posted a link to aerokits.net as an example of what CF is worth from the US, but from what I have heard I think it could be possible to go a fair bit cheaper.
manufacturing costs are a lot less than you may think. Just a few hundred for the initial mould, then not too much after that for each piece.
The shipping is the most expensive part, and I think it is a fixed rate so it gets spread out fairly quick, which is why numbers are needed.
I am not doing this for much profit, just after some free parts really. I just like the idea of getting some expensive or hard to get parts out there at literally the best possible price.
Who shops at MSY? This is how they can sell stuff for less than retailers are paying.


Even after all this is said, I am still not 100% sure I will go through with it. maybe 95% sure now, I just have to speak with my mate.

EDIT:
http://rev9autosport.com/na/engine/rev9-oe-style-radiator-panel.html Is an air diversion plate in CF but for an NA. I think people would like these.

a mate of mine suggested earlier today that I could get the windscreen surround on CF, but i didnt think many people would be interested.
CF oem style mirrors would be nice, but I would only be able to supply the CF part of it. You would then be required to disassemble your existing mirrors and swap parts over.

[threadjacking]Also, by pedals do you mean a pedal cover, or the pedals? I am not a fan of covers personally, as I use grip tape (glow in the dark yo!) Image this colour when not illuminated and it lasts a fair while. If anybody is in Adelaide and wants their pedals wrapped in either GITD or black, PM me and I will be more than willing to do it for nothing. [/threadjacking]
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby deviant » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:53 pm

Yep pedal covers but they would need to be decent ones that require a couple of holes drilled in the pedals to screw them down. I guess the brake pedal would need grip tape on it anyway so might not be worth it.

Maybe just a CF throttle pedal extension like the one Flyin Miata sell: http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dep ... r=21-74900

CF foot rest?

I reckon the internal windscreen surround in CF would look awesome but tastes vary.

CF glovebox?

Talking of using CF on the inside of the car....Would it be the super shiny clear coated stuff? Personally I think it looks rank inside a car as it is always a totally different texture and finish to the rest of the inside. I have seen CF with a much duller finish and it is always much more subtle.

Again for me personally I really want a shorty console. I fraking hate the existing centre console under my arm as it is totally the wrong height to be comfortable. It is sticky in the summer and the two cup holders and bloody useless...rest your arm and the lids come open, put a cup in them and you cant change gear.

Dont forget that with the shorty console they also supply a finishing piece for around the boot and fuel flap levers like with this one: http://rev9autosport.com/nb/interior/je ... ype-1.html
See what I mean about how the shiny bits look totally out of place?
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby coreys » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:58 pm

A dead pedal could be pretty cool, except it will scuff something horrible, same with the pedal extension. Still, good ideas.

I have a feeling that it would be a glossy finish just from the resin. I am not sure if the standard textured finish can be carried across or not. If all else fails, I am sure it can be sanded :P
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby JG » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:56 pm

Sill panels/trims/scuff plates (whatever you prefer to call them)
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Re: possible EOI for carbon fibre stuff GB

Postby Manusdei » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:16 am

What about the rear # plate surround on an NA? as pictured on the white NA with the autokonexion ver 2 trunk? And Id realy like a tombstone and shorty console in CF.
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