WTB: 20L flat fuel can

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WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby BadBong » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:09 pm

Planning ahead for the club's CTW drive at the end of the month. My fuel consumption fluctuates between *8L to 25L per 100kms... so I'll definitely need a spare fuel can for emergencies.

I've got something like this at the moment, which fits 5L:

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I'm looking for something that holds 20L and is flat enough to fit in the boot. I also want the opening to be at the top in case of spillage... I've found this on the net but I've never seen it at a shop before:

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Can anyone suggest where I can source this locally? (Prefer not to buy online as I need to trial it to make sure it fits)
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby hks_kansei » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:13 pm

Bunnings maybe, but best bet would likely be a farm supply store.

Farmers often use flat cans like that so they can strap them to the back of an ATV without it going everywhere.
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby zossy1 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:17 pm

I would suggest a Marine supply store too - they have flat cans.

25L/100km? Cool.
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby Apu » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:42 pm

Vic, I'd suggest two 10L cans.

A flat can is a PITA to use unless you siphon, and heavy to carry as well. Plus it means you have all the weight on one side if your very well balanced car :wink:
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby aka_juffa » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:16 pm

I was going to suggest super cheap, however once you get over 5 litres they only have the upright versions.

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online ... escription

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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby Guran » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:39 pm

Heavy right foot? :wink:

Vic, you might like to consider getting an upright 20L jerry. It fits perfectly behind the passenger seat and wedges in place if you recline the seat firmly. Available from Supercheap, BCF, etc for about $30.
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby BadBong » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:03 pm

Great suggestions guys.

Will need to keep the passenger seat free (and I hate the smell of petrol in the cabin...)

2*10L cans will probably do the trick as long as their lid is at the top but I'll check out the other niche stores as well as suggested.

Heavy right foot + high revs + driving up and down the mountain continuously for 50kms = 25L/100kms. Best result on the highway has been 8L after the rebuild.

I'm assuming that there's no difference between different 'brand' of fuel can right?... it's always under cover and i'm not going to be tossing it around.
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby marty085 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:26 pm

BadBong wrote:I'm assuming that there's no difference between different 'brand' of fuel can right?

I'm going to hazard a guess that they're all made in the same factory, generally speaking.
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby aka_juffa » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:56 pm

marty085 wrote:
BadBong wrote:I'm assuming that there's no difference between different 'brand' of fuel can right?

I'm going to hazard a guess that they're all made in the same factory, generally speaking.



I have a 10 litre super cheap brand can. Attaching the pipe in order to pour some fuel is a bitch. You think you have it sealed correctly until you see the fuel running down the side of the car/mower. Some of the other brands they sell did appear to be of better quality.....but I was on a strict budget at the time.

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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby dave2221 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:06 pm

BadBong wrote:Planning ahead for the club's CTW drive at the end of the month. My fuel consumption fluctuates between *8L to 25L per 100kms... so I'll definitely need a spare fuel can for emergencies.

I've got something like this at the moment, which fits 5L:

Image

I'm looking for something that holds 20L and is flat enough to fit in the boot. I also want the opening to be at the top in case of spillage... I've found this on the net but I've never seen it at a shop before:

Image

Can anyone suggest where I can source this locally? (Prefer not to buy online as I need to trial it to make sure it fits)


anyone with an outboard motorboat up to 50hp will have one.

I dont anymore i dont think

They are like 160 new, so dont buy one, just borrow.

do you know anyone with a tinny/aluminium boat?
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby BadBong » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:43 pm

dave2221 wrote:
BadBong wrote:Planning ahead for the club's CTW drive at the end of the month. My fuel consumption fluctuates between *8L to 25L per 100kms... so I'll definitely need a spare fuel can for emergencies.

I've got something like this at the moment, which fits 5L:

Image

I'm looking for something that holds 20L and is flat enough to fit in the boot. I also want the opening to be at the top in case of spillage... I've found this on the net but I've never seen it at a shop before:

Image

Can anyone suggest where I can source this locally? (Prefer not to buy online as I need to trial it to make sure it fits)


anyone with an outboard motorboat up to 50hp will have one.

I dont anymore i dont think

They are like 160 new, so dont buy one, just borrow.

do you know anyone with a tinny/aluminium boat?


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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby Mr Morlock » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:19 pm

Gentleman- that's why they invented steel Gerry cans- 25 kg or so in your boot full but it would fit and they are of course durable. Better buy a good one- check out disposals stores or camping suppliers or off road suppliers. Many people use Gerry cans
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby wot » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:07 pm

That red 20l one which Guran posted a pic of is a Rheem (but I think Southcorp actually make them now.
They are actually the sturdiest of all (I have one fr 1994) and don't leak, even when lying flat.
Sceptre's are OK (I have yellow ones (diesel)but the red one (petrol) can leak if the top isn't carefully screwed on!!
Willow (SCA and K Mart etc) ones are no where as good.

There are Rheem ones in a 10l size but they are uprights and don't have the second air bleeder so you have to position the funnel correctly when pouring or they go slow glug glug.
a tip: when you fill the 20l ones, sqeeze the sides in with your knees to get rid of the air. Then the j/c can expand as it gets warmer without a big air bulge. Any car boot gets warm.
Don't use the pourer to support the weight of the J/c as you fill. It will break.

The one you pic'd looks like a boat filler and they are a PITA to pour from.
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby dave2221 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:10 pm

wot wrote:That red 20l one which Guran posted a pic of is a Rheem (but I think Southcorp actually make them now.
They are actually the sturdiest of all (I have one fr 1994) and don't leak, even when lying flat.
Sceptre's are OK (I have yellow ones (diesel)but the red one (petrol) can leak if the top isn't carefully screwed on!!
Willow (SCA and K Mart etc) ones are no where as good.

There are Rheem ones in a 10l size but they are uprights and don't have the second air bleeder so you have to position the funnel correctly when pouring or they go slow glug glug.
a tip: when you fill the 20l ones, sqeeze the sides in with your knees to get rid of the air. Then the j/c can expand as it gets warmer without a big air bulge. Any car boot gets warm.
Don't use the pourer to support the weight of the J/c as you fill. It will break.

The one you pic'd looks like a boat filler and they are a PITA to pour from.


YES, If you get a boat fuel tank (as picutered) you will need a funnel

Vic, i have a 15ltr jerry can that should fit in a NB, ill stick it in my boot tonight and test it for you tonight (its kept at my dads and i am heading here for dinner)
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Re: WTB: 20L flat fuel can

Postby greenMachine » Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:52 pm

Mr Morlock wrote:Gentleman- that's why they invented steel Gerry cans ... Many people use Gerry cans


Nobody as far as I know.

I DO know of people who use jerrycans though :wink: :lol: . The problem with the metal ones is rust (on the inside), as well as suffering more from condensation buildup (due to their metal construction). You MUST use a filter/strainer with these, but that will not stop the water.

Don't forget you will need a filler that will open the fuel flap under the filler cap. And 20l weighs twice as much as 10l, and it feels like three times as much to hold in position while juggling funnels amd pourers :| while not spilling any on the car :( .

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